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  1. latecomer91364

    latecomer91364 Easily Distracte

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  2. shootersa

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    1,000 Trump supporters do not define the deplorable party (which at last count had almost 39 MILLION members), Any more than "the squad" defines despicables. And calling those charged in the January 6 riot "coddled" exposes your ignorance, or your silly attempts at propaganda.
    Really. Which of those 1,000 protesters charged with crimes have been "coddled" specifically?

    And so long as we're talking officials who don't want all of the evidence from January 6 exposed, when is it you suppose that Nancy Antoinette and her power rangers will release all of the evidence they gathered from their star chamber proceedings?

    Can we at least agree that if the videos had been released before the star chamber slithered back into the halls of Congress, there wouldn't be much deplorables could do to prevent the faces of rioters being shown in the media?

    What could be the down side of such a move?
     
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  3. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Nice try. Trump, the man who loves people who attacked the Capitol and beat law enforcement officers, still has the right support of the Republican party. Your "Not all Republicans!' whining plea is adorable.

    I will concede that coddle is a vague term. After all, one man's coddled is another Marjorie's political prisoner. I do notice that of all those charged so far in connection with the attack on the Capitol(you remember that dark day) not a single one has admitted to being a paid FBI operative. The FBI must pay very well.

    The ghost buses full of FBI operatives scenario is still being peddled by elected GOP officials. They want to relieve Trump supporters of the consequences of their actions and reduce the severity of the sentences. In other words, make up unbelievably stupid excuses for them because they were just mislead. You know, coddling.


    It's even more adorable when you argue that Mike Johnson wouldn't have an opportunity to coddle criminals if Democrats had as little concern about Capitol security procedures as he does. It's like I used to say to my second wife, "I knew if we talked about this long enough, we'd find a way it was my fault."
     
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  4. shootersa

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    Well, bron, lets look to the facts then.
    1,274 individuals have been charged with criminal violations for their participation in the January 6 capital attacks.
    It is estimated that fewer than 100 remain unidentified and not charged.
    Of those, 70% —892 individuals, have plead guilty or been found guilty. Sentences to prison have been for as long as 18 years (the median is 150 days) and have been fined.
    Only 12 cases have been dismissed or been found not guilty.
    At least 5 of those charged have been held without bail, even though there is no evidence that they pose a flight risk and no one is claiming they pose a risk to anyone.
    Explore NPR database of Jan. 6 Capitol riot cases and sentencing status updates : NPR

    Hardly sounds like coddling to Shooter.
    Your attempt to direct the narrative to sketchy conspiracy theories fails, and your unsupported claim that "GOP officials" are still peddling these theories fails as well.

    Meanwhile, the rioters who looted and burned in Portland and Seattle and Chicago and other cities all across America just before January 6,2021 have pretty much not been charged, or their charges dismissed, or their cases deferred indefinitely. The claim that those rioters were not on the same level as the January 6 rioters is false; both attacked Federal buildings, both were attempting to disrupt government business, both were violent towards government employees, both resulted in deaths/significant injuries, both were more than spontaneous acts, and both were in clear violation of laws.
    The difference is that the January 6 rioters have been accused of participating in an insurrection (but the charges in almost all cases do not reflect that claim) led by Trump while the other rioters were expressing a political agenda.

    So your claim that deplorables defend/coddle/protect the January 6 rioters is rejected. Your claim that January 6 rioters are "coddled" by anyone, in particular law enforcement is proven false on it's face.

    Shooter doesn't expect you to concede your erroneous claims or apologize for broadcasting propaganda.
    He doesn't expect you to stop trying to control the narrative to fit your agenda.
    It's enough for Shooter that your lies are exposed to more reasoned and intelligent members of the forum.
     
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  5. umpire2

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    It is becoming clearer and clearer to me that 25% of Americans are total lunatics regularly taking hallucinogens and call themselves Republicans.

    Another 17% of Americans are rational Republicans who are desperately trying figure out the 25% lunatics in their efforts to elect a conservative majority in 2024.

    13% of Americans are independents who are trying to decide who is crazier, the criminal-supporting Trump-ettes or those who think an 80+ year old senile president is a good idea.

    About 25% of Americans believe in democracy, but do not believe in completely open borders or "reparations" which would bankrupt the country permanently.

    And 20% of Americans deserve the term "libtards" because they would allow the country's population to top 400,000,000 with the inclusion of anyone who wants to illegally cross the border, have taxpayers who are already squeezed in the working and middle classes have their taxes increased in order to pay people because their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents (who were not Native American, Jewish, Irish, Italian, Polish, Hungarian, Catholic, Quaker, etc..etc., etc) were abused AND hope they can convince the 30% +10% above of their agenda because the alternative is an orange monster who will end any shred of democracy left in the country.

    If I were the 17% who are rational Republicans, the 13% who are Independents and the 25% who are rational Democrats, I would be praying every night that the other 45% of Americans would disappear overnight and bring sanity back to this country.
     
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  6. shootersa

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    Well, but ump, how the hell can anyone tell that they're a rational deplorable, independent, or rational despicable without the libtards and deplorable lunatics to set the bar?
     
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      Biden is, perhaps sadly, the best option for the Democrats. I base this on my complete ignorance of US politics (har har). (Yeah seriously I don’t know if Biden statistically is a better option than another Democrat… and I’m not taking the time to find out, but hey, it’s Christmas.)
       
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  7. umpire2

    umpire2 Share-Man of the Board

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    You know, you are right. But wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to have rational disagreements and solve them with compromise over a beer?
     
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      Yes indeed.
      don't even have to settle anything, just have a good conversation with no stress.
      Shooter has a good friend who is about as liberal as they come.
      Shooter and the friend ran rivers together, so we've known each other for a lot of years.
      But he's a New York Democrat.
      In any case, we've had some pretty good conversations but he gets frustrated and says Shooter just doesn't understand.
      So Shooter asks what? and friend gets another beer.
       
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  8. darkride

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    I told my son just yesterday that there are actually some good Republicans. I even said it with a straight face.

    Of course, most tow the party line and are therefore guilty of heinous acts against the American people... but some are good.
     
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  9. umpire2

    umpire2 Share-Man of the Board

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    There are about 80 million Republicans in this country and (my opinion, of course) about 35 million of them are (according to their speech, claims and actions) are total undemocratic, self-serving lunatics.

    However, 45 million of them (the majority) are totally rational conservatives who want their beliefs and agendas promoted by elected officials. The problem is GETTING proper officials elected. Rather than stomping on the radical, crazy 'Trumpers' in their party and bringing back true Republican values (rather than unconstitutional spew from the evangelical nuts, the 'pry-my-gun-from-my-cold-dead-hands-no-matter-how-many-children-are-slaughtered' faction and the racist fascism that the 35 million collectively espouse) they feel they are forced to go along with the party crazies in order to get people elected.....and then who do they get in office? Evangelical nuts, gun nuts and racists rather than true conservative Republicans.

    The Democrats are almost as bad, but they don't totally pander to the socialist/Communist wing of the party. And, oh yes.....there are Communists in the Democratic fold.....because where else could they hide? Of the approximately 85 million Democrats in the U.S., about 10% promote extreme socialist ideas that border on Communism (I say 'border on' because they can't come right out and cheer for Communism). These are the "expand welfare, abortion for everyone at any time, reparations for anyone who might be 1% black or more or who came from Zaire two years ago and never had a slave in their family's history" nut jobs. Then there are about 10% of Democrats, who, simply in order to get people elected in some areas (particularly major cities) go along with the nuts simply for political purposes.
    The remaining Democrats seem simply confused. Their only agenda seems to be to keep Trump out (which is a completely rational approach in itself) and so they have a tendency to occasionally (too often) allow the nuts and semi-nuts in the party to have a voice. What should be the main Democratic agenda is keeping jobs in this country and promoting job growth (which means support of labor), fair wages for the unemployed (which includes at least minimum regulation on business), assuring basic health care for the entire population and guaranteeing basic rights for everyone, not just the wealthy and privileged.

    Republicans naturally should be interested in economic stability, business growth and the management of resources in order to keep a stable progress for the future.

    These are interests that, while different, can be debated and compromised in a rational manner, rather than giving the reins to the extremists in both parties.
     
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  10. silkythighs

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    Political parties formed right from the beginning. Only Washington in his farewell address in 1796 truly foresore the dangers of political parties.
     
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  11. Lxv200

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    If Trump gets his way on the 8th of January 2025 there will be a new constitution it will be a one liner
    Do has I say or I kill you.
     
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  12. shootersa

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    No, it will say "on your knees minions or you're fired.:)
     
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  14. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    The one thing people hate more than political parties is losing elections.
     
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  15. silkythighs

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    And this from a trumpard. You can't make this shit up. :confused:
     
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